Zach Randolph

reports are knicks rejected clippers offer for expirings for this dude.

i wouldnt trade zach for expirings

arkanekidd wrote:i wouldnt trade zach for expirings

I would, espescially if the Knicks plan on an up tempo offense.

20/10 PF doesnt play D but good post scorer.

Randolph is a great rebounder ....


offensively, he is turnover prone and a blackhole. he scores at low percentages and so is inefficient.

defensively, he is a terrific detriment to the team. he does not play anything that you could even call defense.

his contract absolutely sucks.


there are maybe two teams in the NBA that i would have trade for Randolph, Cleveland or the LA Clippers. in those situations he would have good enough players around him that his faults can masked by his teammates strengths and his scoring ability can better be utilized.

with no disrespect... I am guessing you see him play maybe 1 time during your entire lifetime

you sound like you haven't watched him... when he first came he was as good a defender as Lee..who most argue should start over him. but he's a 20-10 guy and the team has to try to get some value.... if all they are offered is cap relief..... keep him let him raise his stock... it won't get lower

but when he was trying on D... he didn't suck

he wasn't good but for half the season he was working on D and Zeke was pulling from games and jamming the post with he and Curry... I can't blame him for the NY experiment... Zeke didn't know how to sub or make a rotationj

there was no player that was going to come in and make the Knicks a winner

arkanekidd wrote:with no disrespect... I am guessing you see him play maybe 1 time during your entire lifetime

you sound like you haven't watched him... when he first came he was as good a defender as Lee..who most argue should start over him. but he's a 20-10 guy and the team has to try to get some value.... if all they are offered is cap relief..... keep him let him raise his stock... it won't get lower

but when he was trying on D... he didn't suck

he wasn't good but for half the season he was working on D and Zeke was pulling from games and jamming the post with he and Curry... I can't blame him for the NY experiment... Zeke didn't know how to sub or make a rotationj

there was no player that was going to come in and make the Knicks a winner

are you talking to me? because i watched a good 30 or so Knicks games this season. the wonders of msg ...

KyleCleric wrote:

arkanekidd wrote:with no disrespect... I am guessing you see him play maybe 1 time during your entire lifetime

you sound like you haven't watched him... when he first came he was as good a defender as Lee..who most argue should start over him. but he's a 20-10 guy and the team has to try to get some value.... if all they are offered is cap relief..... keep him let him raise his stock... it won't get lower

but when he was trying on D... he didn't suck

he wasn't good but for half the season he was working on D and Zeke was pulling from games and jamming the post with he and Curry... I can't blame him for the NY experiment... Zeke didn't know how to sub or make a rotationj

there was no player that was going to come in and make the Knicks a winner

are you talking to me? because i watched a good 30 or so Knicks games this season. the wonders of msg ...

then you were too obsessed with watching Eddy Curry

arkanekidd wrote:

KyleCleric wrote:

arkanekidd wrote:with no disrespect... I am guessing you see him play maybe 1 time during your entire lifetime

you sound like you haven't watched him... when he first came he was as good a defender as Lee..who most argue should start over him. but he's a 20-10 guy and the team has to try to get some value.... if all they are offered is cap relief..... keep him let him raise his stock... it won't get lower

but when he was trying on D... he didn't suck

he wasn't good but for half the season he was working on D and Zeke was pulling from games and jamming the post with he and Curry... I can't blame him for the NY experiment... Zeke didn't know how to sub or make a rotationj

there was no player that was going to come in and make the Knicks a winner

are you talking to me? because i watched a good 30 or so Knicks games this season. the wonders of msg ...

then you were too obsessed with watching Eddy Curry

Curry, another lazy bum that will fail miserably in the Knicks new system. And I have NBA League Pass, so I've seen plenty of both

MikeDead wrote:

arkanekidd wrote:

KyleCleric wrote:

arkanekidd wrote:with no disrespect... I am guessing you see him play maybe 1 time during your entire lifetime

you sound like you haven't watched him... when he first came he was as good a defender as Lee..who most argue should start over him. but he's a 20-10 guy and the team has to try to get some value.... if all they are offered is cap relief..... keep him let him raise his stock... it won't get lower

but when he was trying on D... he didn't suck

he wasn't good but for half the season he was working on D and Zeke was pulling from games and jamming the post with he and Curry... I can't blame him for the NY experiment... Zeke didn't know how to sub or make a rotationj

there was no player that was going to come in and make the Knicks a winner

are you talking to me? because i watched a good 30 or so Knicks games this season. the wonders of msg ...

then you were too obsessed with watching Eddy Curry

Curry, another lazy bum that will fail miserably in the Knicks new system. And I have NBA League Pass, so I've seen plenty of both

Yea i get alot of Knicks games with my access also..it seems like the whole Knicks squad is full with lazy bums, i wonder how the practices look like.

I bet Isiah just sat on the bench with his face in his hands, while Randolph and Curry had buffalo wings eating contests, and Starbury sold autographed pairs of his $15 shoes for $100 courstide.

The Knicks are a strange team, on paper they look loaded with talent, bad contracts sure, but on paper if your going to simply look over the roster, they look like a team with plenty of talent. Problem is the only one on that roster you can count on giving 100% every night is David Lee.

MikeDead wrote:The Knicks are a strange team, on paper they look loaded with talent, bad contracts sure, but on paper if your going to simply look over the roster, they look like a team with plenty of talent. Problem is the only one on that roster you can count on giving 100% every night is David Lee.

and D'antoni doesn't even like him.

MikeDead wrote:The Knicks are a strange team, on paper they look loaded with talent, bad contracts sure, but on paper if your going to simply look over the roster, they look like a team with plenty of talent. Problem is the only one on that roster you can count on giving 100% every night is David Lee.

he doesnt give his 100% on the defensive end. no one on that roster does. and no one that roster plays D. also, theres no leadership.

goldnblue83 wrote:

MikeDead wrote:The Knicks are a strange team, on paper they look loaded with talent, bad contracts sure, but on paper if your going to simply look over the roster, they look like a team with plenty of talent. Problem is the only one on that roster you can count on giving 100% every night is David Lee.

and D'antoni doesn't even like him.

Which makes zero sense to me since Lee seems like a perfect fit for that type of up tempo run and gun offense that he loves to execute. That may very well be the one thing that will bail out some of the Knicks players and their flaws on defense, score enough points, and the Knicks certainly have the weapons, and your lackluster defense may be overlooked.

KyleCleric wrote:Randolph is a great rebounder ....


offensively, he is turnover prone and a blackhole. he scores at low percentages and so is inefficient.

defensively, he is a terrific detriment to the team. he does not play anything that you could even call defense.

his contract absolutely sucks.


there are maybe two teams in the NBA that i would have trade for Randolph, Cleveland or the LA Clippers. in those situations he would have good enough players around him that his faults can masked by his teammates strengths and his scoring ability can better be utilized.

how is 46% low shooting percentage???

arkanekidd wrote:

KyleCleric wrote:Randolph is a great rebounder ....


offensively, he is turnover prone and a blackhole. he scores at low percentages and so is inefficient.

defensively, he is a terrific detriment to the team. he does not play anything that you could even call defense.

his contract absolutely sucks.


there are maybe two teams in the NBA that i would have trade for Randolph, Cleveland or the LA Clippers. in those situations he would have good enough players around him that his faults can masked by his teammates strengths and his scoring ability can better be utilized.

how is 46% low shooting percentage???

according to nba.com's stat "efficiency" he's the Knicks most effiecient player. Ranked 46th ahead of Josh Howard, Dunleavy, Okafor, RJeff, Tony Parker, Deng, Sheed, AK47, Gil, JO, Gordon, Rondo, Prince

There probably keeping him so they can be in the sweepstakes for Lebron, D- Wade, Bosh. Manu all those people