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Make a list of your top 20 players.. im just wondering what everyone thinks. Here goes my list, its a self opinion thing so you guys may have different views than mine.
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Tim Duncan
6. Dwayne Wade
7. Dwight Howard
8. Paul Pierce
9. Yao Ming
10. Carmelo Anthony
11. Deron Williams
12. Chris Bosh
13. Allen Iverson
14. Dirk Nowitzki
15. Amare Stoudemire
16. Caron Butler
17. Chauncey Billups
18. Tracy McGrady
19. Elton Brand
20. Gilbert Arenas
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arkanekidd
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shouldn't this be in NBA discussion? no way in hell is KG better than Duncan
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1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson
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1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
KG? 
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1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. Lebron James
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Dwight Howard
10. Deron Williams
11. Dirk Nowitski
12. Chris Bosh
13. Steve Nash
14. Yao Ming
15. Tracy McGrady
16. Paul Pierce
17. Elton Brand
18. Baron Davis
19. Allen Iverson
20. Boozer or Joe Johnson or Arenas or Gay or Billups
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| arkanekidd wrote: |
| shouldn't this be in NBA discussion? no way in hell is KG better than Duncan |
KG is more athletic, can penetrate, fade away has more handles then Duncan..defensively they are both good but i think KG is just better than Duncan.
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| arkanekidd wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
KG? |
Tim Duncan, KG, and Shaq are the best 3 players in the NBA over the past 15 years. he should have won the MVP last season. hurray for media hype.
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
D-Will over CP3? |
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Deron Williams is a better pure point guard. He does a better job creating for his teammates and is a far better defensive player. I'd take his quiet leadership over Paul's, too. Paul just has the scoring aspect going for him. His assist statistical advantage comes because Paul dominates his teams offense. It either goes through him or it doesn't happen.
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| goldnblue83 wrote: |
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Chris Paul
3. Lebron James
4. Tim Duncan
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Dwight Howard
10. Deron Williams
11. Dirk Nowitski
12. Chris Bosh
13. Steve Nash
14. Yao Ming
15. Tracy McGrady
16. Paul Pierce
17. Elton Brand
18. Baron Davis
19. Allen Iverson
20. Boozer or Joe Johnson or Arenas or Gay or Billups |
Steve Nash is great but doesnt play Defense..i dont think he even knows what that means. His offensive game is great and he can dish out wit hthe best of them..but cant Baron, Deron, Paul, Billups, Parker do that and play defense also?
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
| arkanekidd wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
KG? |
Tim Duncan, KG, and Shaq are the best 3 players in the NBA over the past 15 years. he should have won the MVP last season. hurray for media hype. |
media hype? tim duncan? are you kidding me?
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is one of the 20 best players in the league? |
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| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
Steve Nash is great but doesnt play Defense..i dont think he even knows what that means. His offensive game is great and he can dish out wit hthe best of them..but cant Baron, Deron, Paul, Billups, Parker do that and play defense also? |
Nash is overrated often. 13 isn't a terrible ranking for him though. In terms of being a pure offensive player, there isn't a better one in the NBA. My own questions include defense, but mostly come from his weak leadership in the playoffs.
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| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is one of the 20 best players in the league? |
not last season...
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
| Deron Williams is a better pure point guard. He does a better job creating for his teammates and is a far better defensive player. I'd take his quiet leadership over Paul's, too. Paul just has the scoring aspect going for him. His assist statistical advantage comes because Paul dominates his teams offense. It either goes through him or it doesn't happen. |
You're right..but if they were to switch teams(Paul in Utah and Deron in NO) do you think they would still have the same effect as they do now?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| arkanekidd wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is one of the 20 best players in the league? |
not last season... |
but Wade is one of the 20 most talented players in the NBA |
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media hype? tim duncan? are you kidding me? |
Tim Duncan is THE best player since coming into the league. His play is just amazing.
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| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| Deron Williams is a better pure point guard. He does a better job creating for his teammates and is a far better defensive player. I'd take his quiet leadership over Paul's, too. Paul just has the scoring aspect going for him. His assist statistical advantage comes because Paul dominates his teams offense. It either goes through him or it doesn't happen. |
You're right..but if they were to switch teams(Paul in Utah and Deron in NO) do you think they would still have the same effect as they do now? |
That really made me think |
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| arkanekidd wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Deron Williams
5. Chris Paul
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Paul Pierce
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is one of the 20 best players in the league? |
not last season... |
He still managed to do the same things playing in 51 games..25 PPG 4 RPG 7 APG, its just because his team didnt play as well i think thats why he was not looked at as much.
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You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is one of the 20 best players in the league? |
Dwyane Wade is one of the most overrated players in the NBA. He put up one good run in the playoffs and because of that shot up everyones list. He has shown very little in this league.
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