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KyleCleric
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| Did you see Wade play in the warmup games? He was the best player on the court. |
Best player not named Lebron or Deron? |
Deron was beastly, but yes he did better than Lebron. You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is better than Billups, Joe Johnson, Arenas, or Al Jefferson? |
depends on the day. while Wade is still hyped well beyond his actual worth, he's staying out of my top 20.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Did you see Wade play in the warmup games? He was the best player on the court. |
Best player not named Lebron or Deron? |
Deron was beastly, but yes he did better than Lebron. You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is better than Billups, Joe Johnson, Arenas, or Al Jefferson? |
depends on the day. while Wade is still hyped well beyond his actual worth, he's staying out of my top 20. |
Hes not that bad though, i think he is in the top 20 though..i looked at some statistical breakdowns and Joe Johnson doesnt do that great against bad teams. Take the playoffs for example, he was supposed to be the best player on the Hawks but Horford and Smith outplayed him thats why he slipped out of my top 20.
I also didnt see Elton Brand on any lists, i think he is by far the most underrated superstar in the league hes averaged a double double almost every season except 2 since hes been in the league, hes averaged over 50% in FG shooting and he can also play defense..he averages 2.1 Blks and 1 Stl in his career thats amazing for a 6'8 PF, pretty undersized for most PF's in the league.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Did you see Wade play in the warmup games? He was the best player on the court. |
Best player not named Lebron or Deron? |
Deron was beastly, but yes he did better than Lebron. You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is better than Billups, Joe Johnson, Arenas, or Al Jefferson? |
depends on the day. while Wade is still hyped well beyond his actual worth, he's staying out of my top 20. |
Hes not that bad though, i think he is in the top 20 though..i looked at some statistical breakdowns and Joe Johnson doesnt do that great against bad teams. Take the playoffs for example, he was supposed to be the best player on the Hawks but Horford and Smith outplayed him thats why he slipped out of my top 20.
I also didnt see Elton Brand on any lists, i think he is by far the most underrated superstar in the league hes averaged a double double almost every season except 2 since hes been in the league, hes averaged over 50% in FG shooting and he can also play defense..he averages 2.1 Blks and 1 Stl in his career thats amazing for a 6'8 PF, pretty undersized for most PF's in the league. |
Now every time I think of Johnson I think of game 6 against the Celtics, when he simply took over in the 4th quarter. He just scored bucket after bucket and no one could stop him no matter what they did. There aren't too many players like that in the league.
Brand was 17th on my list btw, and he'll probably move up if he can recover and lead Philly to the playoffs. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Did you see Wade play in the warmup games? He was the best player on the court. |
Best player not named Lebron or Deron? |
Deron was beastly, but yes he did better than Lebron. You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is better than Billups, Joe Johnson, Arenas, or Al Jefferson? |
depends on the day. while Wade is still hyped well beyond his actual worth, he's staying out of my top 20. |
Hes not that bad though, i think he is in the top 20 though..i looked at some statistical breakdowns and Joe Johnson doesnt do that great against bad teams. Take the playoffs for example, he was supposed to be the best player on the Hawks but Horford and Smith outplayed him thats why he slipped out of my top 20.
I also didnt see Elton Brand on any lists, i think he is by far the most underrated superstar in the league hes averaged a double double almost every season except 2 since hes been in the league, hes averaged over 50% in FG shooting and he can also play defense..he averages 2.1 Blks and 1 Stl in his career thats amazing for a 6'8 PF, pretty undersized for most PF's in the league. |
Now every time I think of Johnson I think of game 6 against the Celtics, when he simply took over in the 4th quarter. He just scored bucket after bucket and no one could stop him no matter what they did. There aren't too many players like that in the league.
Brand was 17th on my list btw, and he'll probably move up if he can recover and lead Philly to the playoffs. |
Yea that was the game he dropped 30 somethin right? I didnt say he was a bad player, but id take Wade over him.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Wizards08=Championship wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| goldnblue83 wrote: |
| Did you see Wade play in the warmup games? He was the best player on the court. |
Best player not named Lebron or Deron? |
Deron was beastly, but yes he did better than Lebron. You honestly don't think that Dwyane Wade is better than Billups, Joe Johnson, Arenas, or Al Jefferson? |
depends on the day. while Wade is still hyped well beyond his actual worth, he's staying out of my top 20. |
Hes not that bad though, i think he is in the top 20 though..i looked at some statistical breakdowns and Joe Johnson doesnt do that great against bad teams. Take the playoffs for example, he was supposed to be the best player on the Hawks but Horford and Smith outplayed him thats why he slipped out of my top 20.
I also didnt see Elton Brand on any lists, i think he is by far the most underrated superstar in the league hes averaged a double double almost every season except 2 since hes been in the league, hes averaged over 50% in FG shooting and he can also play defense..he averages 2.1 Blks and 1 Stl in his career thats amazing for a 6'8 PF, pretty undersized for most PF's in the league. |
Now every time I think of Johnson I think of game 6 against the Celtics, when he simply took over in the 4th quarter. He just scored bucket after bucket and no one could stop him no matter what they did. There aren't too many players like that in the league.
Brand was 17th on my list btw, and he'll probably move up if he can recover and lead Philly to the playoffs. |
Yea that was the game he dropped 30 somethin right? I didnt say he was a bad player, but id take Wade over him. |
no doubt |
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After careful consideration, I think the best 20 players in the NBA should be...
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Andrew Bynum
3. Pau Gasol
4. Lamar Odom
5. Derek Fisher
6. Jordan Farmar
7. Sasha Vujacic
8. Trevor Ariza
9. Josh Powell
10. Vladimir Radmanovic
11. Luke Walton
12. DJ Mbenga
13. Coby Carl
14. Dwayne Mitchell
15. Joe Crawford
16. Ronny Turiaf
17. Maurice Evans
18. Kwame Brown
19. Smush Parker
20. Brian Cook
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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After careful consideration, I think the best 20 players in the NBA should be...
1a. Paul Pierce
1b. Kevin Garnett
3. Tim Duncan
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
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arkanekidd
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| KyleCleric wrote: |
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After careful consideration, I think the best 20 players in the NBA should be...
1a. Paul Pierce
1b. Kevin Garnett
3. Tim Duncan
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
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see. it has everything to do with you being a celtic fan and a kobe hater 
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KyleCleric
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| arkanekidd wrote: |
| KyleCleric wrote: |
| arkanekidd wrote: |
After careful consideration, I think the best 20 players in the NBA should be...
1a. Paul Pierce
1b. Kevin Garnett
3. Tim Duncan
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson |
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see. it has everything to do with you being a celtic fan and a kobe hater |
no it has to do with it being hilarious that Paul Pierce said that he was the best player in the world. And of course he is the best player in the world because he said it.
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arkanekidd
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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I declare myself only second to Paul Pierce 
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KyleCleric
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I declare myself only second to Paul Pierce |
fine.
1ai. Paul Pierce
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1b. Kevin Garnett
3. Tim Duncan
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
8. Chris Bosh
9. Chauncey Billups
10. Tracy McGrady
11. Baron Davis
12. Tony Parker
13. Dwight Howard
14. Joe Johnson
15. Gilbert Arenas
16. Allen Iverson
17. Manu Ginobili
18. Amare Stoudamire
19. Yao Ming
20. Al Jefferson
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| Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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After careful consideration, I think the best 20 players in the NBA should be...
1a. Paul Pierce
1b. Kevin Garnett
3. Tim Duncan
4. Lebron James
5. Deron Williams
6. Chris Paul
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I'd agree this was maybe the best 6 players in the league.... id prolly put Paul ahead of Deron.
on the other hand, get ready to maybe toss one of the guys off this list and add in baron davis or al jefferson.... i think big al is about to just explode.
ohh and give mega props to kobe bryant who tops the list as the leagues best rapist |
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All Celtic's bias aside, it's really hard not to put Kobe at #1
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