What would it take?

To land Mike Bibby?
I'm sure most of you are in full lottery mode by now but do we really want to hang our hopes on winning a lottery(no sure thing)?An what if Oden an Durant decide to stay in college ,where does that leave us?To me we have our pieces in place we just need stabalize the roster with a solid veteran an continue to develope the draftees we have in camp.So what better then a veteran point guard still in his prime to run the show an lead?

Bibby will add more then shooting from the point/a veteran presence in maybe the most improtant posistion on the floor/leadership/clutch play for closing out games/ball handling....He is a veteran for Rondo to learn from!Bibby's contract is up in 3 years that should be time for Rondo to learn an take the starting job to lead this team well into the future,no?I can't help but smile thinking how much faster it would be for Rondo to learn going head to head with Bibby in practice an watching a pro night in an night out.

However that leaves the question what would it take to land him?An what would you give?Thoughts?

I like Bibby for the offense he provides and the fact that I think he could play well with Pierce as he doesn't have the attitude where he HAS to get his touches. BUT he is a liability on defense.

What would it take to get him? You'll have to let me think about that one a bit.

Ratliff's expiring contract and a comnination of some youth. I would think either Jefferson or Green would have to be involved, and maybe a Telfair or Delonte.

I don't think Bibby would be a good fit. He is just a more experienced version of Delonte West. We don't need another SG posing as a point guard. He is not a real point guard or playmaker. Check out the Sacramento boards. They want to trade him for that reason. Bibby has been exposed for his lack of playmaking since Webber left. Webber was the real playmaker of that team.

Chauncy Billups is the guy to go after. He has not re-signed with Detroit yet and if they don't win the championship this year, it's possible that he would leave. He might be willing to come here if we get Oden and if the owners are willing to pay up.

^ I don't know if Billups would want to come back to Boston after everyone in the organization trashed him and said how we would never pan out as a succsesful PG. We need to stay the course and stick with the youth. Rondo looks good and he's really the only young kid I have faith in for the future.

MikeDead wrote:Ratliff's expiring contract and a comnination of some youth. I would think either Jefferson or Green would have to be involved, and maybe a Telfair or Delonte.

I was thinking more like Gomes/Ratliff contract/West...I think Bibby would help us but he isnt a top 10 player an shouldnt command top prospects imho...

I wouldn't be surprised if the Kings demanded top price for him, or if they were willing to send him out for cheaper....they could demand either way with him depending on how eager they are to deal him.

bankshot wrote:I don't think Bibby would be a good fit. He is just a more experienced version of Delonte West. We don't need another SG posing as a point guard. He is not a real point guard or playmaker. Check out the Sacramento boards. They want to trade him for that reason. Bibby has been exposed for his lack of playmaking since Webber left. Webber was the real playmaker of that team.

Chauncy Billups is the guy to go after. He has not re-signed with Detroit yet and if they don't win the championship this year, it's possible that he would leave. He might be willing to come here if we get Oden and if the owners are willing to pay up.

I'm sure things have changed greatly without Pedja/Webber/Christy gone thus i would think he would be looking to score more wouldn't you?He handles the ball well has a great crossover an is an EXPERIENCED point guard,with BIG game experience...The positives out weigh the negatives imho with this guy.Yes i know he isnt a top defender but i think its alittle over played,look at Nash he is hardly a defensive stopper but what he adds offensively overshadows the defense.Now im NOT calling Bibby Nash by any means but he adds the experienced guard who can run an offense create some TOs an make the simple dump pass into Al an keep the defense honest.The best part of this deal is to improve the future in one Rajon Rondo an imho again going against a Bibby in practice daily or having a pg around to pick his brain is only a positive in everyway.

Don't overlook the experience at that posistion.Bibby will get the calls offensively Rondo WILL NOT get from officials right now in his career as well as defensively.Bibby would also command the floor something we DESPERATLEY need!I respect your opinion an thank you for the input but i still think a player like Bibby could solidify our first unit an help develope Rondo in the process.It makes more sense then a Gasol to me /shrug

I think it would take more then Gomes/West/Ratliff. Al Jefferson or Gerald Green would most likely be involved. The problem I think we have is that Danny likes these young players too much and other NBA teams don't like them enough.

I don't think it will take that much to get Bibby, and I really would not want to C's to go after him...he's got a huge contract that his play on the court will not warrant.

It'd probably take Ratliff's contract and one of the PGs or one of the young bigs.

Sacremento is about to go into serious rebuilding mode. They have older players who aren't that good anymore and bad contracts across the board.

The one MAJOR upside with Bibby is that he has the killer instinct you want/need at the end of a game, but we all ready have that in Pierce.

nepg wrote:I don't think it will take that much to get Bibby, and I really would not want to C's to go after him...he's got a huge contract that his play on the court will not warrant.

It'd probably take Ratliff's contract and one of the PGs or one of the young bigs.

Sacremento is about to go into serious rebuilding mode. They have older players who aren't that good anymore and bad contracts across the board.

Actually if they were able to trade the people i mentioned Gomes/West/Ratliff it saves them money next season an they would only really be paying the high end in 08/09 his final year of his contract....Did i also mention Bibby is a great pick an roll Point? An what do our guards do poorly? Umm pick an roll! This guy has a 16 point scoring average over his career an is a better shooter then he has shown this season(early season hand injury) an what do our guards do poorly? Shoot! Bibby with the ball in his hands demands someone guard him something teams dont have to do with our current guards.Let me make it clear i believe Rondo is going to develope into a wonderful point guard however i think a teacher the caliber of Mike Bibby will only enhance the training process.Bibby is only signed through 08/09 in 2.5 years i guarantee its Rondo running the show an Bibby backing him up if Mike was willing.....This take Rondo out from under the microscope an allows his game to develope gradually the same goes with the rest of our youth .We have a high pick coming reguardless if we were to get Mike Bibby that gives us Rondo/Jefferson/Green/top pick to develope next is to surround them with vets/winners who can shoulder the load an teach them.Hence i like Mike.

QuenteK25 wrote:The one MAJOR upside with Bibby is that he has the killer instinct you want/need at the end of a game, but we all ready have that in Pierce.

Which makes it very easy to defend...Add a Mike Bibby an it only gets that much easier.

MikeDead wrote:Ratliff's expiring contract and a comnination of some youth. I would think either Jefferson or Green would have to be involved, and maybe a Telfair or Delonte.

I don't think it would take that much. Ratliff plus Delonte would probably be enough, however I would rather have Delonte due to his youth, and Bibby will decline soon enough. Plus I like the Lakers, and Bibby is on the Kings.

Klewfish wrote:

MikeDead wrote:Ratliff's expiring contract and a comnination of some youth. I would think either Jefferson or Green would have to be involved, and maybe a Telfair or Delonte.

I don't think it would take that much. Ratliff plus Delonte would probably be enough, however I would rather have Delonte due to his youth, and Bibby will decline soon enough. Plus I like the Lakers, and Bibby is on the Kings.

Bibby is only 28 an a far more skilled guard then Delonte.I love Delontes heart but you have to admit he is an offen hurt player do to his reckless style.If anyone will decline quickly it will be Delonte due to killing his body night in an night out.Delonte can't get his shot off against bigger guards an doesnt handle the ball well enough to really be a number one pg.But thats just me i guess.

masterofthe1/2inch wrote:

Klewfish wrote:

MikeDead wrote:Ratliff's expiring contract and a comnination of some youth. I would think either Jefferson or Green would have to be involved, and maybe a Telfair or Delonte.

I don't think it would take that much. Ratliff plus Delonte would probably be enough, however I would rather have Delonte due to his youth, and Bibby will decline soon enough. Plus I like the Lakers, and Bibby is on the Kings.

Bibby is only 28 an a far more skilled guard then Delonte.I love Delontes heart but you have to admit he is an offen hurt player do to his reckless style.If anyone will decline quickly it will be Delonte due to his body night in an night out.Delonte can't get his shot off against bigger guards an doesnt handle the ball well enough to really be a number one pg.But thats just me i guess.

Wow I guess I didn't realize Bibby was only 28.

QuenteK25 wrote:The one MAJOR upside with Bibby is that he has the killer instinct you want/need at the end of a game, but we all ready have that in Pierce.

masterofthe1/2inch wrote:Which makes it very easy to defend...Add a Mike Bibby an it only gets that much easier.

I can't argue with that!

Not to beat a dead horse here but Bibby takes that shot an at least we have a shot at winning.....??

They don't need Bibby, they just need to not have West in there instead of Rondo or Telfair.

nepg wrote:They don't need Bibby, they just need to not have West in there instead of Rondo or Telfair.

You do realize at this point in both Rondo's an Telfair's career neither of those two players can shoot with any consitancy?That loading your offense at the end of ball game with players who have shown no ability to make a shot makes it pretty hard for people who actually can make a shot?Delonte needed to take that shot,a big game player like Bibby never hesistates that sir is the difference between a pro an a young player learning the NBA game.