Rebuild???

Rebuild???

Postby MikeDead on Tue May 01, 2007 8:40 am

The way things are now I don't think the Celtic's need to go through another rebuilding process, hell we've been rebuilding for 10 years. Hopefully in May the ping pong balls fall our way and we can draft Kevin Durant or Greg Oden to help add a little size to the roster, and the potential is there for one of those guys to become a franchise player. And with another year of experience for Gerald Green & Al Jefferson the chemistry will be much better next year. I still worry about the PG situation even though Rondo looks like he's gonna be a great 1 guard he's still young and will make mistakes, but it seems like the team has finally grasped the idea of uptempo basketball, and once the Celtics can find a PG who can work the fastbreak our offense has the potential to be very good, and with Al Jefferson turning into an elite forward the Celtics will also have a dominant inside presence.

As far as the veterans on our team are concerned - Pierce is aging, but he's still a top 20 player and an elite scorer. I understand his frustration with the team this year but his dip in production came from injuries and he still has a few good years left. If Wally can finally be 100% next year then he could be a valuable asset off the bench to spark the offense with his shooting. Im not gonna count on Tony Allen to be productive until I see that he can bounce back from his surgery, but if he does produce, he can add lock-down defense and hustle to the roster. And Theo Ratliff if healthy says he plans to play which will probably be limited minutes, but he can still add good inside defense, rebounding and great shot blocking ability.

Id still like the C's to make a trade for a legit veteran player since the caproom isnt there to sign any impact free-agents, and for the right player I wouldn't mind seeing Gerald Green or Al Jefferson packaged together with Delonte West and/or Ryan Gomes, Tony Allen or Kendrick Perkins. Because if Greg Oden is drafted then Perkins becomes more of a trade piece then anything, and when the lottery comes around if the C's don't get a top two pick then they're lottery pick also becomes a very valuable trade piece.

If the C's are going to make a bid at a player like Kevin Garnett, Pau Gasol or Jermaine O'neal then Al Jefferson becomes expendable IMO. As good as Al Jefferson is, and he'll probably get better over the years, I'll take the experience and veteran leadership of an established All-Star over the all-star potential of a young kid with only a few years in the leauge.

Either way if the Celtic's can put together a healthy starting 5 next year, and not have any major injuries then they're a playoff team IMO, and hopefully with the addition of Kevin Durant or Greg Oden they'll add an impact player to next year's roster, and in this draft even 2nd round players have the potential to contribute right away.
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Postby nepg on Fri May 04, 2007 7:56 pm

At this point, if the C's land Oden or Durant, all they need to do is minor maintenance. The only major player I'd see them grabbing would be like a Bonzi Wells.

They won't get good value in any trade they'd be able to make. The only trades that would make sense are for future picks to help streamline the roster.
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Postby PierceToGreen on Sun May 13, 2007 2:21 am

Damn, KG in Boston would do wonders for both teams. Imagine a PP and KG duo! :man4:
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Postby MikeDead on Sun May 13, 2007 2:14 pm

Yea KG and PP would be insane.
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Postby nepg on Sun May 13, 2007 11:23 pm

I could see Ainge trading Oden/Durant for KG. Whether that's a good or bad move for either team is debatable.
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Postby MikeDead on Mon May 14, 2007 12:24 pm

Well its not 100% that Durant or Oden will be great NBA players, I happen to think Durant will be better then Oden personally, but Garnett.....well you know what your getting with a player like that.
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Postby Celtic Fan on Thu May 17, 2007 7:42 am

KG or J'Oneal are gonna cost a lot to aquire IMO. especially because many teams would have interest.
KG could put a lot of contenders over the top if they are able to aquire him without giving up too many key pieces.
Ditto J Oneal to a lesser extent. Big thing about JO is that he can play Center. KG can play some center but not a full year there IMO.

Gasol is on a tier lower than those guys IMO because he's never been past the first round of the playoffs. That says something about a player right there... especially if they're the #1 player on the team.
Gasol would work in Boston because he'd have Paul to take responsibility of carrying the team in the playoffs.
basically he's a super-duper role player.

The C's need to make a big trade this summer if #1 or #2 doesn't come up in the lottery. This team has lots of good talent, but it's time to trade in the hambuer for some steak. Or to trade in the steak for some filet mignon.
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Postby MikeDead on Thu May 17, 2007 1:14 pm

Yea bringing in a veteran like Gasol seems like a good idea.
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Postby Klewfish on Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:51 am

I think the easiest way for the Celtics to bring in some immediate talent is find a team with a star that is looking to rebuild. Offer the team
1. The #5 pick
2. A bad contract (Theo Ratliff, Wally Szczerbiak)
3. A young player (Perkins, Tony Allen, Delonte West)

I think to a team like Memphis, you might be able to bring in Gasol, Seattle you could possibly get Rashard Lewis. Portland might offer Zach Randolph, etc. I'm sure there are many possibilities.
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Postby nepg on Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:59 pm

None of the trades that the C's could pull - aside from Joe Johnson - are any good at all for Boston... They lose terribly on most of the possible deals I've heard involving the #5.

The only one I can think of that they might be able to work is if the Clippers give in to their need to rebuild again.

Clippers get:
Ratliff
Telfair
Gomes/Allen/West
#5

C's get:
Elton Brand

Could even take it slightly further if they'll take Scal, tack on Tim Thomas.
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Postby Celtic Fan on Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:54 pm

it's still early.
If Ainge is patient and teams start to bring more players in for workouts, he'll get better offers.
If he's a complete dumbass and makes a trade 3 weeks out, he should be hung.
wait, wait and then wait some more.
a day or two or heck even draft day will bring in the best offers IMO.
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Postby MikeDead on Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:28 pm

^Yea like you said it is still early and none of us really know what Danny has planned.
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